Actions speak louder than words
This is a post by my partner, Andy. He has been reading "The Sword of the Prophet" by Serge Trifkovic and has discovered that Islam is a fascist totalitarian religion.
I grew up thinking very simply that - whether Christian, Jew, or Muslim - we all had the same belief: one God be he Yaweh, God or Allah. It was all the same God just different names.
In high school I decided to do my senior English term paper on the PLO. This was back in '83 before the they turned Yasser Arafat into a Jordan Almond (heavy sugar coating) and suicide bombing came into fashion. The PLO just didn't jive with my innocent veiw of Islam. Conclusion was that the PLO was an aberration and that Arafat Was a nasty little Hitler that should be terminated with extreme prejudice. At the time nearly all the terrorist action that made it to our news stations and print seemed to lead back to him and the PLO. Waste the whole bunch of them - problem solved. I will never understand why, when it has always been our national policy to not negotiate with terrorists, every president since the 70's has brought Arafat to the peace negotiations table. Talk about a blind spot.
Speaking of blind spots; the way Americans are taught world history has some very glaring blind spots so much so you would describe it as acute tunnel vision. My entire education concerning Islam and Muslims can be summed up with: "Islam was founded in 630 ad by Mohammed." I think it is time to start teaching the history of Islam and its very bloody history of expansionism.
I have been reading "The Sword of the Prophet" by Serge Trifkovic. He says right up front that he is not a scholar of the Middle East or Islam and that he is not an apologist as many such university scholars are. He simply puts forth the facts, backs them up with diverse research and documentation and leaves you to decide. Needless to say, it doesn't paint a pretty picture of Muslims or Islam: from Mohammad's expulsion (and subsequent slaughter) of the large Jewish and Christian populations of Medina for refusing to acknowledge him as the one true prophet; to the Mogul slaughters in India (I had read and heard a little about the Moghuls but - foolish me - I thought Moguls were from the east not Arabs from the west) and then to the Ottoman Turks in the years following WWI to the present day.
Hitler's final solution was directly inspired by the Turks. When his councillors warned him that Europe and America would not stand idly by as he put into motion his "final solution," Hitler is quoted as saying, "Who remembers the Armenians?"
To give you the information to which this refers: on September the 9th, 1922 the Turks under Attaturk took the thriving port city of Smyrna. The murder of Christians (primarily Armenians) started almost immediately and rapidly escalated to mass slaughter at the instigation of the Turkish military authorities. The slaughter reached a peak with the burning of Smyrna on September the 13th, 1922 when the Turks put the Armenian quarter to the torch. Two hundred thousand Christians - yes, 200,000 - stood at the piers of the city trapped between the bay, the fire, and the Turkish bayonets. All were slaughtered (much to our shame as Americans) while American, English, French and Italian ships and battleships lay anchored in the harbor doing nothing in order to maintain neutrality. Those who swam to the ships to seek refuge were driven off or doused with boiling water by the British. Musicians aboard the American battleships were ordered to play as loud as possible to drowned out the pleas and screams of the swimmers.
When The world turns a blind eye to such as this no wonder Hitler thought he was safe in his "final solution." I always wondered what happened to all those thriving Christian cities and communities in the Middle East that were mentioned in the New Testament - i.e. Corinth, Galatia, Phillipi, Colossae, Thessalonica, and Macedonia. Very simply: Islamic jihad followed by decades of rule under Islamic law.
(My description of the slaughter at Smyrna is a shortened version of Trifkovic's direct quote from "Greek Fire" by Nicholas Gage published by Alfred A. Knopf in 2000.)
When murder, rape and pillage are institutionalized and done in the name of religion there is a very real danger that we ignore at our own peril. Islamic expansion (it is and has been the fastest growing religion for some time) is by willing or forced conversion and gradations in between. Standard procedure, from its very inception, consisted of a raiding party sweeping into a nearby village and slaughtering all who attempted to resist and rounding up any men of fighting age. If you were lucky, you were offered a chance to become Muslim and avow that Allah was God and Mohammad his prophet. If you were unlucky, you had no choice and were put to the sword. The elderly were killed outright. The women and children were marched off into slavery. The women also had the honor of being raped and, if comely, forced to become concubines to their captors.
The Arabs had been doing this for centuries among each other. Their only rule was that you should not do it to your own clan/tribe. Everyone else was fair game. Mohammad codifiedthis tradition, changing the rules slightly. He said that Muslim Arabs could no longer be attacked but that all infidels were fair game and that included shirks (false Muslims.) This concept of shirks is the cause of the ongoing battles between Shi'ite and Sunni. This is probably also the reason why few Muslims of conscience speak out against the terrorist atrocities: for, to disagree with Islamic tradition means that you will be declared shirk and that puts you lower than the infidel and is a death sentence.
Mohammad was canny in that he understood that the Arab tribes' history of raiding and conquering their neighbors. He also promised his followers that, if they died in the cause, they would go to a heaven of the most decadent and sensual of pleasures and, if they lived, that they would be rewarded with all the wealth of anyone whom they killed in battle. Now they were simply doing what they had always done and all with Allah's blessing. To die in battle was great honor AND they would also get a heaven of endless sensual pleasure.
What's the down side? The problem was: how to continue to finance the expansion. If Mohammad forced his warriors to be farmers or merchants, (so that they cvould be taxed) they would have rebelled. Selling the women and children into slavery was a short term fix and would not sustain the expansion. Hence the need to codify the existence of the infidels under sharia (Muslim law) and tax them to finance the expansion. Thus some Christians and Jews would be allowed to live after their regions had been conquered (but only in numbers too small to pose a threat to the conquerors) and be allowed to continue farming and running businesses to provide the tax base to pay for further expansion. They would pay for their lives in jizya (a poll tax which would be collected annually.) These excessive taxes would be paid only by the infidels and would help to finance further conquest. Failure to make full payment would result in your family being sold off into slavery. (The Muslims consider themselves generous so the price paid for your family would be applied to your jizya.)
Under sharia, the infidel is not allowed to vote, hold political office or hold any position where he might even have the possibility of authority over a Muslim. The infidel is not allowed to own or carry any weapon. He is not allowed to testify against a Muslim even if he is a witness to a murder. Should the infidel kill a Muslim, his life (and often the lives of his entire family) is forfeited. He is not allowed to convert a Muslim or even speak of his religion to a Muslim. For a muslim to kill an infidel that pays the jizya, he need only say that the victim was SUSPECTED of violating any one of these requirements and he will be commended for his actions. You could see how it would be of benefit for an infidel to convert if he were living under sharia. You could say it was good for your health and the whole family as well as your wallet. Any infidel child who has the misfortune to be orphaned does not go to members of the extended family. The orphan is forced to become Muslim. With this kind of official policy, it is no wonder that Islam is a growing religion. Don't think this is just ancient history it continues throughout all of north Africa to this day. The Sudan is one of the very worst at the moment. But Egypt is just as bad with their treatment of the Coptic Christians despite the fact that Egypt is one of the more secular Muslim countries.
The Koran states there can be no peace until all the world bows to Allah and all people submit to the laws of Allah (i.e. sharia. Sharia is clearly incompatable with democracy. History shows that Islam is an aggressive expansionist theology that allows for no other religion to exist as its "final solution." It permits no challenge or review of its dogma and has never had and is never likely to have a reformation. The only book is the Koran and hadiths that go with it. The only ones allowed to interprete the meaning of these books are the clerics and ayatollahs; not what I would call a progressive bunch and not likely to share any of the power or authority that goes with it; not when they can declare anyone preaching reform a shirk and declare fatwa which is an instant trip to heaven for Muslims who kill any person or persons named in this Islamic death warrant.
Islam's history, its writings, and the teachings of its scholars all repeat the same thing: expansion, domination, slaughter and crushing of any dissenting ideas. It is a totalitarian ideal masquerading as a religion. With its promise of paradise to anyone who dies in the effort to spread this religion, if this is not a death cult I don't know what is.
If there are any Muslims who think there is something wrong with Islam, then it is time to get up off your lazy asses and get a backbone. Tell your cult-crazed clerics they are insane. Figure it out. If you are in America, England or anywhere in the west, you are free to make your own decisions and you can decide what is best for you and your children. You have to clean your own house and your own community. You either think these Islamofascists are dangerous radicals or not. There is no middle ground on this. If you won't clean your community of these types it is rightly assumed you are part of the problem. When this puts fellow Americans in danger you have lost your standing as Americans in my eyes. If you cannot police your own community, be prepared to take the consequences of your inaction. Americans are "live and let live" by nature but, if you don't start putting your own house in order, we will come in and do it for you. So, if there are moderate Muslims out there, prove it or be tarred with the same brush as your radical counterparts. What you say do or think is your own business but, if you are a threat me or mine, I'll kill you without a second thought just like a rabid dog.
Andy
I grew up thinking very simply that - whether Christian, Jew, or Muslim - we all had the same belief: one God be he Yaweh, God or Allah. It was all the same God just different names.
In high school I decided to do my senior English term paper on the PLO. This was back in '83 before the they turned Yasser Arafat into a Jordan Almond (heavy sugar coating) and suicide bombing came into fashion. The PLO just didn't jive with my innocent veiw of Islam. Conclusion was that the PLO was an aberration and that Arafat Was a nasty little Hitler that should be terminated with extreme prejudice. At the time nearly all the terrorist action that made it to our news stations and print seemed to lead back to him and the PLO. Waste the whole bunch of them - problem solved. I will never understand why, when it has always been our national policy to not negotiate with terrorists, every president since the 70's has brought Arafat to the peace negotiations table. Talk about a blind spot.
Speaking of blind spots; the way Americans are taught world history has some very glaring blind spots so much so you would describe it as acute tunnel vision. My entire education concerning Islam and Muslims can be summed up with: "Islam was founded in 630 ad by Mohammed." I think it is time to start teaching the history of Islam and its very bloody history of expansionism.
I have been reading "The Sword of the Prophet" by Serge Trifkovic. He says right up front that he is not a scholar of the Middle East or Islam and that he is not an apologist as many such university scholars are. He simply puts forth the facts, backs them up with diverse research and documentation and leaves you to decide. Needless to say, it doesn't paint a pretty picture of Muslims or Islam: from Mohammad's expulsion (and subsequent slaughter) of the large Jewish and Christian populations of Medina for refusing to acknowledge him as the one true prophet; to the Mogul slaughters in India (I had read and heard a little about the Moghuls but - foolish me - I thought Moguls were from the east not Arabs from the west) and then to the Ottoman Turks in the years following WWI to the present day.
Hitler's final solution was directly inspired by the Turks. When his councillors warned him that Europe and America would not stand idly by as he put into motion his "final solution," Hitler is quoted as saying, "Who remembers the Armenians?"
To give you the information to which this refers: on September the 9th, 1922 the Turks under Attaturk took the thriving port city of Smyrna. The murder of Christians (primarily Armenians) started almost immediately and rapidly escalated to mass slaughter at the instigation of the Turkish military authorities. The slaughter reached a peak with the burning of Smyrna on September the 13th, 1922 when the Turks put the Armenian quarter to the torch. Two hundred thousand Christians - yes, 200,000 - stood at the piers of the city trapped between the bay, the fire, and the Turkish bayonets. All were slaughtered (much to our shame as Americans) while American, English, French and Italian ships and battleships lay anchored in the harbor doing nothing in order to maintain neutrality. Those who swam to the ships to seek refuge were driven off or doused with boiling water by the British. Musicians aboard the American battleships were ordered to play as loud as possible to drowned out the pleas and screams of the swimmers.
When The world turns a blind eye to such as this no wonder Hitler thought he was safe in his "final solution." I always wondered what happened to all those thriving Christian cities and communities in the Middle East that were mentioned in the New Testament - i.e. Corinth, Galatia, Phillipi, Colossae, Thessalonica, and Macedonia. Very simply: Islamic jihad followed by decades of rule under Islamic law.
(My description of the slaughter at Smyrna is a shortened version of Trifkovic's direct quote from "Greek Fire" by Nicholas Gage published by Alfred A. Knopf in 2000.)
When murder, rape and pillage are institutionalized and done in the name of religion there is a very real danger that we ignore at our own peril. Islamic expansion (it is and has been the fastest growing religion for some time) is by willing or forced conversion and gradations in between. Standard procedure, from its very inception, consisted of a raiding party sweeping into a nearby village and slaughtering all who attempted to resist and rounding up any men of fighting age. If you were lucky, you were offered a chance to become Muslim and avow that Allah was God and Mohammad his prophet. If you were unlucky, you had no choice and were put to the sword. The elderly were killed outright. The women and children were marched off into slavery. The women also had the honor of being raped and, if comely, forced to become concubines to their captors.
The Arabs had been doing this for centuries among each other. Their only rule was that you should not do it to your own clan/tribe. Everyone else was fair game. Mohammad codifiedthis tradition, changing the rules slightly. He said that Muslim Arabs could no longer be attacked but that all infidels were fair game and that included shirks (false Muslims.) This concept of shirks is the cause of the ongoing battles between Shi'ite and Sunni. This is probably also the reason why few Muslims of conscience speak out against the terrorist atrocities: for, to disagree with Islamic tradition means that you will be declared shirk and that puts you lower than the infidel and is a death sentence.
Mohammad was canny in that he understood that the Arab tribes' history of raiding and conquering their neighbors. He also promised his followers that, if they died in the cause, they would go to a heaven of the most decadent and sensual of pleasures and, if they lived, that they would be rewarded with all the wealth of anyone whom they killed in battle. Now they were simply doing what they had always done and all with Allah's blessing. To die in battle was great honor AND they would also get a heaven of endless sensual pleasure.
What's the down side? The problem was: how to continue to finance the expansion. If Mohammad forced his warriors to be farmers or merchants, (so that they cvould be taxed) they would have rebelled. Selling the women and children into slavery was a short term fix and would not sustain the expansion. Hence the need to codify the existence of the infidels under sharia (Muslim law) and tax them to finance the expansion. Thus some Christians and Jews would be allowed to live after their regions had been conquered (but only in numbers too small to pose a threat to the conquerors) and be allowed to continue farming and running businesses to provide the tax base to pay for further expansion. They would pay for their lives in jizya (a poll tax which would be collected annually.) These excessive taxes would be paid only by the infidels and would help to finance further conquest. Failure to make full payment would result in your family being sold off into slavery. (The Muslims consider themselves generous so the price paid for your family would be applied to your jizya.)
Under sharia, the infidel is not allowed to vote, hold political office or hold any position where he might even have the possibility of authority over a Muslim. The infidel is not allowed to own or carry any weapon. He is not allowed to testify against a Muslim even if he is a witness to a murder. Should the infidel kill a Muslim, his life (and often the lives of his entire family) is forfeited. He is not allowed to convert a Muslim or even speak of his religion to a Muslim. For a muslim to kill an infidel that pays the jizya, he need only say that the victim was SUSPECTED of violating any one of these requirements and he will be commended for his actions. You could see how it would be of benefit for an infidel to convert if he were living under sharia. You could say it was good for your health and the whole family as well as your wallet. Any infidel child who has the misfortune to be orphaned does not go to members of the extended family. The orphan is forced to become Muslim. With this kind of official policy, it is no wonder that Islam is a growing religion. Don't think this is just ancient history it continues throughout all of north Africa to this day. The Sudan is one of the very worst at the moment. But Egypt is just as bad with their treatment of the Coptic Christians despite the fact that Egypt is one of the more secular Muslim countries.
The Koran states there can be no peace until all the world bows to Allah and all people submit to the laws of Allah (i.e. sharia. Sharia is clearly incompatable with democracy. History shows that Islam is an aggressive expansionist theology that allows for no other religion to exist as its "final solution." It permits no challenge or review of its dogma and has never had and is never likely to have a reformation. The only book is the Koran and hadiths that go with it. The only ones allowed to interprete the meaning of these books are the clerics and ayatollahs; not what I would call a progressive bunch and not likely to share any of the power or authority that goes with it; not when they can declare anyone preaching reform a shirk and declare fatwa which is an instant trip to heaven for Muslims who kill any person or persons named in this Islamic death warrant.
Islam's history, its writings, and the teachings of its scholars all repeat the same thing: expansion, domination, slaughter and crushing of any dissenting ideas. It is a totalitarian ideal masquerading as a religion. With its promise of paradise to anyone who dies in the effort to spread this religion, if this is not a death cult I don't know what is.
If there are any Muslims who think there is something wrong with Islam, then it is time to get up off your lazy asses and get a backbone. Tell your cult-crazed clerics they are insane. Figure it out. If you are in America, England or anywhere in the west, you are free to make your own decisions and you can decide what is best for you and your children. You have to clean your own house and your own community. You either think these Islamofascists are dangerous radicals or not. There is no middle ground on this. If you won't clean your community of these types it is rightly assumed you are part of the problem. When this puts fellow Americans in danger you have lost your standing as Americans in my eyes. If you cannot police your own community, be prepared to take the consequences of your inaction. Americans are "live and let live" by nature but, if you don't start putting your own house in order, we will come in and do it for you. So, if there are moderate Muslims out there, prove it or be tarred with the same brush as your radical counterparts. What you say do or think is your own business but, if you are a threat me or mine, I'll kill you without a second thought just like a rabid dog.
Andy
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